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09/29/17 09/29/17 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! hard storm tos a recover from, but the amount of progresess that has been made -- and i really would appreciate any support that we get. i know it is really a good news story in terms of our ability to reach people and the limited number of deaths thatave tan place in ch a a dastatiti hurricane. amy: good news fakee news? elaine duke in the trump
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administration defend the respon to the unfoldi hunitariri crisis in puerto ri. ne d dayafter r rricane mia dedestrod mu of f thslslands evererstructure, many ofhehe 3.5 milllln residents remain without elecicicity d arare desperate for fresh water, food, and otr supplies. we will go to san juan f a an updatete fromhe cent for instigativ journalists. th sayhe death toll is higherhan the goverent reports. thenen wwill s snd the rt of thhour wh michael ore, the academy awa-w-winninfilmmake hind "fahrheit 9/11"nd "bling for cumbine." he ion broadway in h his theatricical debut in a play called "the terms of my surrender." >> basically, none of us are going to surrender. the actual terms are pretty extensive. it is not just getting rid of trump. we have to take a look at how we got trump. he did not just fall out of the sky. he is the end result of the
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decades of both dumbing down the country but also the widening gap between those with wealth and those who work to provide the wealth for those who are rich. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in puerto rico, a vast stockpile of food, water, medicines piling up at the main court in san j jn is a shortage of truck drivers and fuel prevents the aid from being delivered to the island's 3.5 lien residents, many remain without electricity, communication, and clean water more than a week after hurricane maria devastated the island. at least 10,000 shipping containers containing the aid are stockpiled at the port from the 4400 u.s. military members who are scrambling to distribute .o rural areas
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on thursday, the trump administration said it would waive the jones act for 10 days after puerto rico's governor and others demanded the u.s. and waive shipping restrictions under the law. in san juan, thousands of puerto ricans boarded a royal caribbean crucial thursday him and joining evacuees from the u.s. virgin islands bound for mainland u.s. this is a woman who sent her children off on the ship. >> am sending my children to miami so they can be more comfortable because they don't have electricity here. sometimes they have water, sometimes they don't. my husband and i have to work and we don't have anywhere to send them. sometimes i can't communicate with them all day because there is no o signal. i am afraid to leave them at home alone. democraticitol hill,, lawmakers accused president trump of neglecting millions of u.s. citizens in puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. new york congress member nydia velazquez, who was born in puerto rico, said the white house showed far more urgency responding to hurricanes harvey
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and irma, which devastated parts of texas and florida -- two states that vovoted for trump. >> unfortunately, this administration's response has been inexcusably slow and ineffective. to the people who are in the airport trying to get ouut -- of the island, , to those of you without roofs, waiting for the worry you're back, are running out of drinking wateter. to those on the mainland are worried about their loved ones on the island, let me say this. we are going to keep fighting for you. do notot give up. we will not give up. amy: the fallout from this year's record hurricane season comes as a a new study finds extreme weather fueled by climate change has cost the u.s. economy at least $240 billion a year over the last decade, and
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that's before an estimated $300 billion in losses from hurricanes harvey, irma and maria are factored i in. the report from the universal ecological fund predicts the cost of climate change to the u.s. is expected to rise to at least $360 billion annually over the next decade. in syria, antigovernment fororcs say at least 152 civilians weree kikilled and dozens more injured in opposition-held parts of idlib b province over the last week, sayiying syrian and russin warplanes bombed six hospitals, five civil defense centers, power stations and camps for displaced civilians. meanwhile, fighting continues to rage in the city of raqqa, where a kurdish commander said thursday isis is cornered and breathing its last gasps. the journalistic monitoring group airwars reports u.s.-led coalition attacks have killed at least 61 civilians in raqqa since saturday, including a young child described as the son of osama kadoor, and sa'id mohammed al-sa'id, a father of six.
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in somalalia, seven people weree killed and six o others injured when a car bomb exploded thursday near a bus stop in the capital mogadishu. it's not clear who carried out the attack, but local officials blamed the militant grououp al-shabab.b. in bangladesh, thehe bodies of 3 rohingya refugees, including eight children, washed ashore thursday after their boat capspsized. the deadad were among 130 rohina aboard the vessel who were fleeing a government-backed ethnic cleansing campaign in neighboring burma. at the united nations, the security council heard thursday from u.n. secretary-general antonio guterres, who warned systematic violence risked spilling further into burma's rakhine state, where an additional 250,000 rohingya might be displaced. >> we are perceived bone chilling account from those who have fled, many women, children, and the elderly. these testimonies point a excessive violence in serious violations of human rights, including the presence of
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landmines and sexual violence. this is unacceptatable and must and immediately. amy: back in the u.s., health and human services secretary tom price apologized thursday for chartering military aircraft to take him and his wife on overseas trips, flights that politico reports cost taxpayers over $500,000. price reportedly spent another $400,000 for private charter planes on domestic routes that typicacally hahad commerercial s available. the white house approved price's requests, which are highly unusual for a cabinet secretary, but when news of the flights became public, president trump said he wasn't happy about the expenses and wouldn't rule out firing his hhs secretary. price said thursday he'd repay about $52,000, a small fraction of the trips' costs to taxpayers. in cambridge, massachusetts, huhundreds of prprotesters gathd thursday outside a harvard university forum where education
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secretary betsy dedevos was delivering a speech on school choice, while scores of students protested silently insnside the event, raising their fists and unfurling banners reading "white supremacist" and "our students are not for sale." the protesters say they oppose devos' efforts to privatize public schools and roll back civil rights and sexual violence protections for millions of students. this is harvard graduate student jeff rousset confronting devos in a q&a after her speech. >> my name is jeff. i'm a masters in public administration student. you're a billionaire with lots and lots of investments. the so-called school choice movement is a way to open the floodgates for corporate interest to make money off of the backs of students. how much do you expect your network to increase as a result of your policy choices? and what are your friends on wall street and in the business world like the coke others saying about the potential to
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get rich off the backs of students? amy: devos fired back -- "i have written lots of checks to give parents and students lots of options to go to the school of their choice. the balance on my income has gone very much the other way." joining the protest were sexual assault survivors opposed to a recent move by devos to roll back obama-era rules on how universities investigate campus sex crimes. on capitol hill, republican representative steve scalise returned to congress thursday for the first time since he was nearly killed by a gunman last june, walking gingerly on crutches as he returned to the floor of the house of representatives to thunderous applause. scalise is house majority whip, a climate-change denier and a staunch opponent of gun control laws. his return to capitol hill fueled speculation that he could eventually replace paul ryan as the nextxt speaker of the house. ththe trump administratition sad thurursday that immigration ages arrested nearly 500 undocumented immigrants over the past week, in sweeps targeting undocumented
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immigrants in sanctuary cities. the arrests came as part of operation safe city, a immigration and customs enforcement sweep that targeted cities like denver, philadelphia, los angeles, and new york, where local police refuse to serve as de facto immigration enforcers. in north dakota, the chair of the standing rock sioux tribe, dave archambault, conceded defeat thursday in the tribe's first election since massive protests erupted over the construction of the $3.8 billion dakota access pipeline. tribal councilman mike faith won with about 63% of the vote; he's -- he said he would focus attention on standing rock's economy, in a region that's one of the poorest in the united states. and in brussels, belgium, over 1000 people marched near european union buildings thursday, calling for safe, legal access to abortion. many of the protesters focused on ireland and northern ireland, where abortions are legal only when they preserve the life of the mother. this is emma cassidy, one of the protesters. to my workalk colleagues in brussels, they are
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so consistently shocked at the situation for women in ireland. the eighth amendment of our constitution practically makes abortion in all situations apart from the risks to woman's life illegal. so it is very important for me to be here, particularly at a time when we know we have a referendum coming up soon. amy: the event marked international safe abortion day and came as the world health organization warned that worldwide, 25 million unsafe abortions occur each year. to see democracy now!'s interview with irish abortion rights campaigner emma campbell in belfast, northern ireland, when we were in belfast last month, you can go to our website at and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we begin today's show with the unfolding humanitarian crisis in puerto rico. nine days after hurricane maria destroyed much of the island's infrastructure, many of its 3.5 million remain without electricity and are desperate for fresh water, power, food, and other supplies.
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at least 10,000 shipping containers that hold a are stockpiled at the port, overwhelming the 4400 u.s. military members who are struggling to distribute to rural areas. on capitol hill thursday, democratic lawmakers accused president trump of neglecting millions of u.s. citizens in puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands. new york congress member nydia velazquez, who was born in puerto rico, said the white house showed far more urgency responding to hurricanes harvey and irma, which devastated parts of texas and florida -- two states that voted for trump. >> unfortunately, this administration's response has been inexcusably slow and ineffective.e. to thehe people who are collapsd in t the airport trying to get f the island, t to those of you in housuses without roofs waiting r the power to come back, worry
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you are running out of drinking water -- to those on the mainland who are worried about their loved ones on the island, let me say this. we are going to keep fighting for you list of do not give up. we will not give up. amy: this comes as the trump administration responded to pressure thursday to waive a shipping law known as the jones act that officials said was hindering disaster relief efforts for puerto rico. elaine duke responded to questions from reporters about a about the administration's response. >> are you comfortable with what the government -- >> a very y satisfied. i know it is a hard storm to recover from, but the amount of progress that has been made -- and i really would appreciate any support that we get. i know it is really a good news
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story in terms of our ability to reach people in the limited number of deaths that have taken place in such a devastating hurricane. amy: meanwhile, presidential spokeswoman sarah huckabee sanders said thursday that 10,000 government workers are helping puerto rico, including more than 7000 troops. three-star general lt. general jeff buchanan, commander of u.s. army north, arrived on the island thursday to direct the relief effort. for more, we go to san juan, the capital of puerto rico. we're on the phone with the government and media command joining us. moscoso she is a data journalist with the center for investigative journalism, an award-winning media that is marking its 10th anniversary this year. they're reporting the death toll is higher than the government reports. welcome to democracy now!, laura. tatalk about what you are encountering now, and what about these figures that you believe the death toll is much higher than is being reported? >> hi, amy.
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ththank you for hahaving us on r program. said theg that you situation in puerto rico is still true. we still have people that don't have clean water, that don't have food. we still have people in hospitals that are not being attended to. we still have all of the locked atnd resources the ports and the airports. nine days after the storm, we are basically at the same stage. about the piece that we published yesterday, about the figures and the numbers that the are thent is saying
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deaths caused by maria, i contained that today, there may be more. the official number is 15 deaths caused -- directly caused by maria. but since yesterday since we , ourshed our article phones have been ringing with many testimonies of many people around the island in various inaway places telling us hospitals, even in their own houses, and in the emergency , it is hard for people to get supplies. many people are dying -- are still dying, and they are not being accounted for. the government hasn't been able to go down there and see that for themselves.
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amy: can you talk about the stockpiling of aid at the port? what is going on, laura? >> me, myself, i haven't into the port so i don't have the actual image. but we do know that many people from outside puerto rico have been sending many, many, many resources and many, many, many supplies. they haven't reached the people they are supposed to. obviously a lack of distribution. i know that there is a real and practical problem. we lost many of our roads. highways.ny of our it is very difficult to carry this applies from the ports and the airports into the rural
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areas of the country. juan,heless, even in san we don't see the movement. even in the capital where the ports are and where the airport is at, we don't see that --ement or the deployment the federal agencies are's was to be helping and distribution. amy: can you talk about the state of emergency in the executive order now in place in puerto rico that includes the what is the curfew, from 7:00 p.m. until 5:00 a.m.? and the peace officers, who are they? >> exactly. hurricane, we the had an executive order with the 6:00 p.m.t went from to 6:00 a.m. now it is 7:00 p.m. until 5:00
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p.m. the executive order is supposed to be implememeed and enforcedd by lococal police, local and mis for police -- municipal police. since yesterday, that effort is the-- it has introduced peace officers. we don't really know the details about this. the only thing that we do know is they are federal agents. they are federal agents from the main island, from the u.s. haveknow that they need to they have to be law enforcement. but we don't know anything else besides this.
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the executive order that the government just are rooted yesterday at the press briefing, line thathe only talked about that new executive order. amy: you have written about the isolation of mountain areas in puerto rico that have not even been gotten to. the president just appointed a three-star general to coordinate efforts. president trump is going there on tuesday. as we wrap up, what is your response and how are you personally doing? i know your own organization, the center for investigative reporting, for investigative journalism, you were having trouble just reaching your other colleagues for over a week. >> yes. altogether and we are working as normally as we can. each member has something, is struggling to something, but we
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are fine compared to the situation of other people and other municipalities in the island. what i can tell you is this. about, i am very worried the president's visit to the island. because for me, that can be a distraction from the important things that need to be happening here in puerto rico. as you said, we still have people that we don't know where they are. we still have people that don't have clean water. we still have very old people lack the health and hospitals. and that to survive they don't die. and now we're going to have all of these efforts for helping the securityve into the
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and the news coverage of president trump i am sure he is not going to come here with water. he is not going to go into the rural areas. he is only going to be here for a few hours. with us you hours are very critical for us and for the government. very controversial for me. amy: and the lifting of the jones act, laura moscoso, the significance of ships being able to come in? >> well, since the beginning, and because we're very close [indiscernible] and to other islands in the caribbean and to other countries in south america, we do have contact with them in educational efforts in other situations. not when we are in crisis. it is very normal that we reach each other and we try to help. and because of the jones act and
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because of all of the restrictions, this has not happened. and now we have a 10 day waiver. i don't think the 10 day waiver is enough because it has been 10 days since the hurricane and we are still at the same space as the hurricane was yesterday. i am grateful this is happening. i am grateful that other people and other countries can come and journalists that can come here and gary the situation from their perspective. but i think a lot more has to be done. amy: finally, this news coming in in the past few days from the navy said it would deploy the usns comfort, a massive ship , then000 hospital beds asked by giving more than a week after hurricane maria struck and only after more than 270,000 people petitioned for its to
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plummet. we have 10 seconds, laura. >> well, they are saying a lot of things. honestly, we are not seeing them in the islands. as i told you, it is going to be difficult to get around the island because they don't know it. so the help, even if it is coming when it needs to come, i don't know how good it is going to be. amy: laura moscoso, thank you for being with us. please, be in say. data journalist at the puerto rico-based centeter for investigative journalism. she is at the command center in san juan right now. for the rest of the hour, we will be speaking with h the academy award-d-winning filmmakr mimichael moore. stay tuned. ♪ [music break]
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amy: "rican beach" by alynda segarra of hurray for the riff raff here on our democracy now! studio. her family from the island of puerto rico. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we spend the rest of the hour with the academy award winning film maker michael moore, the person behind "fahrenheit 9/11," "bowling for columbine," "sicko," "capitalism: a love story" and "where to invade next."
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now moore has added theater production to his list of accomplishments. he is now starring in his theatrical debut on broadway in the play "the terms of my surrender." he launched the production with the question, "can a broadway show take down a sitting president?" inin typical michael moore fashion, the one-man show infuses humor as he examines the 2016 election, speaks with special invivited gueststs, ands out a road map of what he believes needs to happen next. this is a clip from a recent performance of "the terms of my surrender," featuring actress and activist r rosie perez. >> we have to resist and we have to just mararch and shut him do. i think the w way to do it is te sasame wayay that t america shun trumpcare. it is not just go to ththe white housuse, the go to your local ad state elected officials because they really have a lot of power. a lot of people don't understand that.
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you know, if you put pressure on them, they will cave. trump p may not, but t they will cave. >> they want to keepep theirir . >> they want t to k keep their paychecks and a free health care. children, rosie perez. amy: that is rosie perez, puerto rican actor and activist speaking with our guest michael moore, who is now starring in his broadway debut "the terms of my surrender." he came into our studio right before his matinee performance on wednesday. i i asked him, well, the questin he opens with, what kind of broadway show can take down a sitting president? actually, anybody watching this can do this. i really believe in the power of a few people can make huge change happen. i talk about this in my show. history is full of examples of people who really changed the they not accepting the lie
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were told all of their lives, that they were just a nobody from nowhere. so i believe in that. yes, i am -- i come from michigan to new york to do the show. i come from the brexit states out there. in the citydo this that gave us donald j. trump. basically, i have come to the belly of the beast here. we do the show 12 blocks from trump towerr every day. amy: didn't you take a bus? >> one that we thought we would go over and have some cheesecake or tortilla bowl or whatever it is, kfc, whatever he loves. we were going to have dinner with him, but he said he wasn't hungry. amy: what are the terms of your surrender? >> if i told you that, what is the point of coming -- it takes me two hours to explain that.
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well, basically, none of us are going to surrender. the actual terms are pretty extensive will stop it is not just gettiting rid of trump. we have to take a look at how we got trump. he didn't just fall out of the sky. he is the end result of decades of both dumbing down the country, but also the widening gap between those with well and those who work to provide the wealth for those w w are rich. amy: we were just interviewing the nobel peace prize winner from bangladesh talking about he thinks it is now five men on more well than half of the world's population. 3.6 billion people. >> he is the kind of natural result of this. it is not some crazy accident, the way i look at it. in fact, he is the result of a racist clause in the united states constitution. that electoral college concept
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of trying to convince the slave states, as you talked about on the show, to come into the country, the new country, we put this clause in their, let them count slaves while giving them no power, really. so he benefited from that. -- it is not a history lesson. it is not a college lecture. well, you have seen it. amy: the show is spectacular. you are constantly responding to whatever the latest is, which is happenening every day. on sunday, you raised the fist in honor of colin kaepernick? >> well, i have been wearing colin's jersey and the 49er's -- since you started last well over year ago since last summer. i participate in the nfl
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boycott. i do not watch any nfl games. anchorage people to boycott the sponsors of the nfl. the owners colluded to keep him from his job this year because he took a stand. -- a few sundays ago, i got the whole audience and we stood with these signs #i mwithcap. i wore the jersey his whole show and the whole audience or most of them raised the fist with me on the stage. what was interesting about this past sunday, it became more against trump than about the original idea of what colin was toing, which is thahat we have take a stand against this brutality of police killing unarmed black citizens.
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and that is how this originally started. owners punished him for that. it was supposed to send a message toto the rest of the players, don't you take a stand or speak out politically. after trump said what he said, it was clear all of the players were going to participate. amy: i want to go to that moment friday night, huntsville, alabama, this is what donald trump said at his rally. pres. trump: wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now? out. he's fired. he's fired! wouldn't you love it? >> usa! usa! usa! pres. trump: : you know, some owner is going to do that. he is what is say, that guy that disrespects our flag, he's fired.
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and that owner, they don't know it -- they are friends of mine, many of them. they don't know it. they will be the most popular person for a week. they will be the most popular person in this country because that is a total disrespect of our heritage. that is a total disrespect of everything that we stand for, ok? amy: as he talked about firing the sons of bitches, colin kaepernick's mother said, i guess that makes me -- >> i'm not going to say it. amy: one proud one. >> trump -- this is what bothered me about sunday is that we think that he is easily distracted by the shiny keys list of whatever it is. there's this awful thing going on with the tragedy in puerto rico. he is completely consumed with the nfl. is how simpleat he is and where h his mind goes. but i think, and i'm worried
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that we are the ones distracted by the shiny keys. as soon as he made such a big deal about it, then a protest shifted from whahat it is really susupposed to be about -- stop shooting black people in this --ntry, police of america and now it was all about trump and now the owners joined in. i think a lot of the players, especially the white players, well, i'm not going to lose my job if the owners are going to lock arms with us. within the whole point -- i thought, jesus, trump is really good with this sort of the way we just jump to the next thing. something really important isis going on every single day in the administration where they are poisoning this country or selling off land to oil copies or whatever it is, it is going on as we speak right now. especiallyhe sudden, the mainstream media, gets focused on what he said about mica in the morning.
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it is not about what it should be about. amy: but when he does the attack and goes after someone, of course, with these players were talking about largely african-american teams, and he is attacking african-american respond, so many people do, and how critical it is. he may create a situatioion, but then it hahas to be responded t. and then we have to point out, and a lot of the players have pointed out, remember, this isn't really about trump. we are doing this against the racial injustice, the racism that still exist in our society, and house they it is to be a black -- how safe it is to be a black man in our's is that it when it comes to the police pulling you over or whatever. i don't think it was once that the get lost in all of this discussion. amy: i want to go to puerto rico, the critical point that he
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tweets however many times, 15 times over the weekend about the .fl and hire them and cursing not once did he tweets about puerto rico. i want to talk about the catastrophe, climate catastrophe. it took him five full days to respond to the plight of puerto rico over the weekend. 17 times about athletes and protesting police vioiolence, facing withering criticism on tuesday he holds a news conference congratulating himself for his response to the disaster. i think he did -- repeated nearly a dozen times he was doing incredible job and denied he had neglected puerto rico. thisis is what he said. pres. trump: i wasn't preoccupied with the nfl. i was ashamed of what was taking place because to me that was a very important moment. i don't think you can disrespect our countryry, our flagag, our national anthem. a me the nfl situation is very important situation. i have heard of before that was i preoccupied.
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not at all. i have plenty of timee on my hands. all i do is work. to be honest with you, that is an important of function. it's called respect for our country. the governor puerto rico is so thankful for the great job we're doing. weid a a great j job in texas ad florida and louisiana will stop we hit little pieces of georgia and alabama. it iskly, we'rere doioing -- the most dififficult job because it is on the island. it is on the islsland in the middle of f the ocean. you can't just drive there from other states. the governor said where doing a great job. in fact, he e thanked me specifically foror fema and a af the first responders in puerto rico. we also mentioning without the u.s. virgin islalands. it was devastated. so we are totally focused on that post that amy: that is president trump was that instead of heck of a job brownie, it is heck of a job myself. >> it is an island. you know it is an island, that? he went on to say it is a big
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ocean between us. it is like -- i'm convinced he has no idea where puerto rico is. all he knows is the people there are not white most of that is why it is not a priority. let's be honest and say hoow his mind thinks. the wahe and others focus on -- with a talk abo these n ayers, 70% african-arican n you say, and how much eyey me and how doeshehere n graraful to thicocountr loooo homuchch ey makak lo how muctheyey make. you'll never hear yoyone complain about w what tom hanks makes. it is always -- iis alwaya lilile tellhat its just, it a mine, wait minute, we let you the club, boy, behave yourself. that is really the message. and that message right there about puerto rico, did i mention the virgin islands? -- we laugh,till
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but we used to laugh at him, especially new yorkers. you know this because you were supposed to take care of them for about 40 years and make sure he was not foisted on the rest of us. i am not holding you personally responsible, amy, but i'm saying of donald trump came from flint, michigan, i could not my face on the show because how can i expect for 30 or 40 years, do something about him there before he would be thrust upon this country. but he is -- he is not a joke. and the time to sort of laughing about this has to be, hopefully, long gone by now because we are in very serious trouble here. and anybody who doesn't think you could be a two-term trump is living in their little fantasy bubble. the republicans are not going to
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impeach him. they have already pulled their gerrymandering districts back home. flipdon't think we can those 24 seats in the house next year and three in the senate. all yes to do is keep his base, which he seems to have pretty well intact. what -- so we have a real fight on our hands. amy: you are the one who predicted all along, you took them very seriously, comedian that you are, saying in the beginning this man has a real chance even as the hillary clinton folks were saying, we want to run against him. >> i know. those of us in michigan and to getin, we kept trying a hold of people at the headquarters in brooklyn. seriously, you could not get through the bubble in brooklyn to say, would you please come out to wisconsin and michigan? i voted for bernie.
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but she lost wisconsin and michigan to bernie. if you lost your own primary, in other words, your people did not want you to be president, wouldn't you kind of maybe show before themetime last week of the general election? how -- how-boggling the poor judgment that took place around her. amy: we are talking to michael moore. i want to turn right now to the white supremacist rallies that have taken place. after what happened in charlottesville and president trump. pres. trump: i think there is blame on both sides. i have no doubt about it and you don't, either. and if you reported it accurately, you would say -- >> [indiscernible]
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pres. trump: excuse me -- you had some very bad people in the group am a but you also had people that were very fine people -- on both sides. you had people in that group -- excuse me. excuse me. i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, to them, of a very, very important statue and then renaming of apart from robert e lee to another name. i'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. what you had many people in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists, ok? and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. in the other group, also, yes i'm fine people, but your side troublemakers and you see them come with black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. you have a lot of bad people and the other group, too. and because that is president
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trump talking about the very fine people in charlottesville will stuff the white supremacist . we're talking about the ku klux klan's men in boston. 40,000 people turned out to protest a small group of people because they were so horrified. "in the termstory of my surrender" about your experience as the young man going to pittsburgh because president reagan did. could you share that story? -- i was in i came a bar with some friends in downtown flint, michigan. reagan announced was going to of sswreath on the graves nazi soldiers to honor them in germany. people were confused. why would you want to honor the nazis? asidee just say them a point here, thank god we're never had another president since reagan that was so enamored with not these --
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nazis. so a friend of mine, gary, both of his parents were survivors of -- auschwitz. we decided to confront reagan in the cemetery. fake press credentials. gary spoke fluent german. i spoke b.s. we were able to get into the cemetery. we snuck in at the cemetery and waited for reagan together, then whipped out this and are that's in we came for michigan to remind you they killed my family. the german cops jumped as admittedly, ripped the banner out of our hands. amy: there was media their? which you had managed to get next to? >> i saw pierce salinger standing there. he was working for abc at the president kennedy's
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press secretary. i said, mr. salinger, my friend and i will are from flint, mimichigan. we're not press. like he couldn't tell. amy: you have press passes. >> we had been badges. have the badges. we're going to do an action year, but we are ready german are going to hurt us. if you could have the camera, because i think the last thing the germans want today is footage going out across the world of them beating a je in this cemeteryw. salinger is like, yeah, yeah, sure, i will help you. he had his camera right there. the cop that grabbed me already had his club over my head like he was going to come down with it. he saw -- he turned and saw the lens of the camera. and he goes -- he puts the billy club away and i did not get my head cracked open. then they just put us in the back of a truck and hauled us out of there. amy: this was shown all over the
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world? >> yes, we were live on abc. if you're a member of the time, if you are old enough and saw that, it was quite -- people could not understand why reagan was one in to lay a wreath on nazi graves. for chile, we are through that kind of president and that won't happen again. amy: you have been taking on these issues from white supremacy, ku klux klan, racist violence for quite some time by that the high school in another story you tell, but your story of the elks club. i was selected to go to avoid state. every high school in michigan said five girls and five boys. you're like a girl governor and a boy governor in a state legislature and all that to teach you how to run a campaign. i did not want anything to do with it. i just ate in my dorm room the whole time.
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stayed in my dorm room the whole time. i saw a poster when it is said "speech contest." lincoln.the life of my dad had just gone to join the oaks club. he got there and they give them an application form at the top is that "caucasians only." it is the 1970's. it is still legal. there was a loophole that toowed racial discrimination continue if it was a private group or a membership organization. back then, for instance, you the friends of democracy now!, if you are a member of democracy now!, you could racially discriminate as long as you are private membership group. i just did there and am thinking, they're sponsoring a contest on the life of abraham lincoln, this was only organization? i went and wrote a speech. i showed up at the contest and i won.
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choosing?d elk was in >> no, it was a speech teacher. speechhave to get the the next day at the boy governor inauguration. i have to sit next to the head elk is big antlers coming out of his hat and a trophy in his lap is going to present to me at the end of the speech. i'm thinking, oh, no, this is not going to end well. i gave the speech. i turned and he's all beat red. his face is so angry. i said at the end of the speech as said, and i don't what your stinking trophy! iran off the stage because i was worried he was going to hurt me. nightom that, that very on the cbs evening news with walter cronkite, because it was out on the wire services that i did it, they did the story.
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it is in the media -- amy: you refuse to talk to them. >> i know this is hard to believe, but i was really shy, a really shy kid. you know that a little bit, don't you? kind of? on a personal level, i very much like this. and back then, i was worse. so i did not go on the cbs evening news, but they did the story anyways and it caused this up for all over the country. we had a great, very role left philip hart. he called me and said, i want to introduce a bill to fix this loophole in the civil rights act and i want you to come down and testify. i'm like, no. i just told him my parents will let me leave the house. i did not go to d.c. to testify. hearings were being held all over the country. a federal judge takes or the tax-exempt status of the oaks club. liquor licenses were being pulled from their clubs.
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and yearso this later, they are forced to accept all americans into the organizations regardless of of their skin. it was such a lesson to learn at the age of 17. a dangerous lesson for me that you could affect change by doing just a little tiny thing. beginning, at the how we are told from the time we argued that we really -- you can't fight city hall. why knock your head against the wall, he won't do anything. that is a big lie, that we are nobodies from nowhere and we cannot affect change. the truth is, we are all somebody. we are all from somewhere. the thing that the wealthy elite establishment is afraid of, if we ever figure out there are more of us than there are of them, they are in big trouble. they know that. the thing they must hate about this country, the rich, is at
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least on paper, in spite of the voter suppression and the gerrymandering, it is still one person, one vote. that has not been changed. there are only so many of them. there are a hell of a lot more of us. if we take the power and are hence, they are in a boatload of trouble. amy: do you think there are a lot more woke folks now? >> absolutely. >>look after the travel ban announcement. the next day, there was not organization it is, no leadership, no call for demonstration, just people on their own showed up at the local airport weather they lived in kansas or at jfk to my people just poured out to the airports with homicides against the travel ban. that was one week after the women's marches all over the country, all over the world. no, i've been hopeful in the sense that a lot of people have come alive and nobody is going back to bed. amy: more with phil maker
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michael moore, who is starring on broadway for the first time in his one-man show, "the terms of my surrender." moore in a minute. ♪ [music break]
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amy: daniel santos here on democracy now! we continued our conversation with academy award winning filmmaker michael moore. he is starring on broadway for the first time in his one-man show "the terms of my surrender." he will be doing a new tv show on tnt called "michael moore: live from the apocalalypse" in february and has a new movie coming out in the sprinkled the dayeit 11/nine," after election. i asked how yes time for everything. >> i don't have a choice. none of us do. we have to do everything. we're in the french resistance. everybody has to have that you got that, you know, to give the kids to soccer practice. the kids can walk. until we get rid of trump. your couples there be a 4:00. get along with your spouse for one more year. we have to get rid of trump. i hate to put it this way, but i
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i have a fire lit under me, i guess. i am doing whatever i can do. i think people watching this are doing what they can do. we just have to reach out and continue to get more and more people involved in this. until he is gone, we have to at least discombobulated him to the point where he is so obsessed about all of the things that are going to keep him from focusing on the really bad things that he is goingng to do. he will take us to war. we will be in a war with this man. and whenn that happens, i need everybody watching this show, listening to us on the radio, i need everyrybody to commit thate have to stand up immediately. if trump is taking us to war, you to automatically assume this is an insane idea from an insane man. my fear is that the so-called liberal establishment, the
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democrats -- 29 democrats in the senate voted to let bush invade iraq. "the new york times" got behind the war in iraq. judith miller, they put stories on the front page that were not true. "the new yorker" magazine ran an editorial i think it was the week before the war saying we should do this. our liberal establishment has to be called into question here. we have to not follow them if they do that again. in the show, i actually play a couple of clips of the night trump bombed syria, that syrian airfield. cnn, away on msnbc, on people were waxing poetic about trump is now the president. this next time when we go to war -- i will say this again, trump will take us to war. he is in new jersey last month
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threatening fire and fury. i mean, i ask the audieience evy night, can we all agree that no good idea has ever come out of that mr., new jersey? no offense to the town, but that is not restart a nuclear war. if trump says north korea is the enemy, do not believe this. do not go to war. unless you see north korean troops marching through that arch and down town square park or friend calls you and says, there are north koreans marching down the aisle having all of the vegan food, ok, then maybe. question it. do not follow a long with the liberal "new york times," the so-called liberal democrats in the senate who won't stand up. as we sit here right now during
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this interview, not a single democrat in the u.s. senate has called for his impeachment. i stood up and said, i demand the impeachment of donald trump. not one democrat can say that. nobody in the senate. the people are supposed to be representing us still do not have thehe spine t that is goino be needed to fight trump and make sure we don't have a two-term trump. amy: you don't think the woke folks in the streets, those who marched in boston, the nfl players -- >> that has to continue. a month before the war started in iraq, new york city, how many were in the streets? wasn't like half a million? around the world, it was millions. then the war started. people around the world still protested, but here the protests shrunk. people started to be quiet about it. that can't happen this time. everybody off the bench. everybody in the pool! seriously, this is it. amy: that is filmmaker michael
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moore starring on broadway for a one-mantime, whe show. until a limited run october 20 second. that does it for our show. if you would like to see the whole interview, go to if you like to get a copy of the show, you can go to as well. i will be speaking tonight in at 7:00 p.m.canada on saturday, i will be in halifax, nova scotia, speaking at 7:00 p.m. for morere information, go to democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]
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announcer: this is a production of china central television america. may lee: it's the talk of hollywood, but it's not about the latest blockbuster. tinsel town is being accused of whitewashing. actors of color say they've had enough of being overlooked for major roles and, what's worse, characters that are originally created as minorities are being replaced by caucasian actors. this week on "full frame," how stereotypes-- both negative and positive--are a downfall to minorities. i'm may lee in los angeles. let's take it "full frame." [theme music playing]


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